2019 Lone Star Fire Conference - Brass Tacks and Hard-ER Facts: Behind – Carterson Public Safety Group, Inc
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2019 Lone Star Fire Conference - Brass Tacks and Hard-ER Facts: Behind and Beyond the Series

Brass Tacks and Harder Facts

This 7-hour course will take you behind the scenes of the making of the Brass Tacks & Hard Facts engine company training video series and beyond the facts presented.  It will be a deep dive in to the gamut that is the engine company discipline, specifically, heightening awareness to the various types of equipment that create fire streams and developing a basic understanding of the different types of nozzles in use today. In depth review of both street level and standpipe supply scenarios. It exposes the following critical factors contributing to success of the firefighter interaction with this equipment: Flow, function, relationship of pressure to GPM and limitations due to nozzle reaction. Specific manufacturer data will be presented to make a case for selections citing industry trends.  Initiating change, committee development, and trial benchmarks will be discussed in detail.  Lectureand hands on format will be combined to ensure each student has the comfort level to go back to their own department and evaluate and test their own fire flow system. 

A basis of understanding is developed drawing on statistical information from UL, NIST, ISO, NFPA1710 section 5.2.3, 1720, 13, 14 and 1962.


An attendee for this class is an Engine Company disciple looking to expand their basis of knowledge. They could be currently involved with an active hose and/or nozzle evaluation, in the planning stages to define the objectives and benchmarks of an evaluation, or just looking for a better understanding of accuracy validating effectiveness in fire stream development. Member’s working to promote alternative attack options in an organization resistant to change will benefit from a “best practices” approach based on facts rather than opinion.


Course Activity and Timeline

Lecture session with interactive power point: 3 Hours

Training ground activity: 4 Hours

  • Establish target flow and flow test engine through a hands-on nozzle/hose comparison
  • Demonstrate how to properly setup and calibrate an inline flowmeter
  • How and where to measure inline pressure to determine friction loss through rig plumbing and hose layout
  • How to measure nozzle pressure using inline and pitot gauges and the differences in between
  • Hands on flow stations for comparative flows and nozzle reaction with all nozzle types

(smooth bore, fixed, selectable, automatic) and tip pressures (50 psi, 75 psi, 100 psi)

  • How to record and interpret flow data, friction loss, and nozzle reaction and find balance in selecting an appropriate hose and nozzle package
  • Review of the 4 types of Standpipe valves commonly encountered in the field
  • Pre and Post 93 Standpipe flow evolutions to identify best practices with all hose and nozzle packages
  • Students will leave understanding the WHY behind an effective fire attack package and how a cut and paste solution is not always the best solution

Jerry Herbst

Jerry Herbst is a 39-year veteran of the Fire Service and is a New York State certified Training Officer. With over 25 years on the line Jerry has served in all rank positions including 6 years as Chief of Department in his local volunteer FD and ten years as a paid Deputy Chief Coordinator at the County Level. He is still an active Firefighter and Apparatus Operator.

He has been with Elkhart Brass since 2006 serving as a Regional Manager, National Account Manager and Strategic Development Manager for Municipal Markets.

Currently the Head of Training and Product Specialist for Elkhart Brass, he travels throughout the U.S. in support of Elkhart’s field force and National account partners providing subject matter expertise on the evaluation, development and implementation of equipment solutions for effective fire attack packages.

He is responsible for relationships with national level fire service instructors and training companies across the U.S. and facilitates their interaction with Elkhart Brass. Jerry has been published and referenced in Industry leading media and is active in instruction and support at many of the nation’s leading Hands on Training events.